It’s not terribly clear but there appears to be a lot of
streaking on the breast and it appears buffy, not orange, and it
looks really long necked in this image. A quick Google search came
up with several images of Pecs with a white eye ring like this
one:
https://www.sdakotabirds.com/species/pectoral_sandpiper_info.htm

I guess I’m still thinking this is a Pec.

Cliff

Or are we seeing a sharply demarcated breast/belly
line, typical of Pec not STSA? 

On Sep 17, 2023, at 12:39 PM, scott
urban via groups.io <scotturban610@…>
wrote:



I appreciate all the feedback from everybody. I
remain confused by the bold eye ring that both Sibley and
Kaufman suggest as diagnostic between the two species. But I
also agree the longer bill is Pec-like. My friend Rick who
was with me yesterday got this picture of the front of the
bird: looks rather buffy like a young STSA?   Or maybe the
bold eye-ring simply falls into the category of “usually” a
STSA. 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 5:24 PM,
rattlesnake4873 <Rattlesnake4873@…> wrote:



The white eye ring is much more pronounced
than in a Pect, and the white fringes on the wing
feathers look hood to me. It’s neck May be protracted,
yet it seems shorter than a Pect.

This is a mystery for Dick Tracy or
Columbo.

Dean

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023
at 5:00 PM Cliff Weisse <cliffandlisa@…>
wrote:

FWIW, your bird is not faded – it’s a bright
fresh juvenile (the known Pec is also a juvy).
Without a look at the front we’ll probably never
be sure.

Cliff

On 9/16/23 04:25PM, scott urban wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts, Cliff! 
I agree the bill seems longer than expected
for STSA, but the plumage issues I was
assuming were due to fading (possibly?) See
attached picture on that topic. And that eye
ring is so striking compared to the known PESA
seen today? Wish I had gotten a good look from
the front!  

On Sep 16, 2023, at
2:42 PM, Cliff Weisse <cliffandlisa@…>
wrote:



Off the cuff this doesn’t strike me as a
Sharp-tailed. The crown doesn’t look as
dark as I expect, supercilium doesn’t
contrast with crown and face, bill looks
kind of long and I think the white mantle
stripes are better for Pec. It also seems
like it’s a bit early for inland records
but I suppose it’s possible.

Cliff

On 9/16/23 01:32PM, scott urban wrote:

Hi, I just posted this same message
to the Facebook Rare Bird Sightings
group:

Hi, seeking
thoughts on a possible Sharp-tailed
Sandpiper today (9-16-23) at Blacks
Creek. The bird on the left is a
Pectoral, but the bird on the right
appears to have a flatter head and
prominent eye ring, both features of
a Sharp-tailed (Kaufman 1987). The
wings “may” be matching or longer
than the tail. Thoughts? I was not
able to see the breast.

-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

On September 6th, I had 2 Blue Jays in my yard. I only saw them briefly as a Belted Kingfisher appeared to chase them away never to be seen again. Today I had 2 Canada Jays eating off of my large suet cake in my front yard. I only mention these occurrences because in the 32 years I have lived here that is a first for both in my yard. I have seen Canada Jays in Washington and at Scweitzer Mountain. Both are between several hundred to a few thousand feet above my elevation here at the house. One of the Canada Jays was darker and looked like the boreal photo in Ibird pro. Unfortunately I only got photos of the lighter jay. 

Linda Lamb
Priest River, ID