Re: Hawk ID

I agree with Louisa this is not a Northern Goshawk. Besides not being large enough the belly markings do not extend all the way onto the undertail coverts. The eyebrow looks consistent to what I have seen many times on an immature Cooper’s Hawk and not prominent or white enough for Northern Goshawk.

On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:46 AM, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@…> wrote:


The belly markings are not heavy enough and the wrong shape for an immature goshawk.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:31 AM David Whitacre <davewhitacre@…> wrote:
I think Tom McCabe is right…my immediate take was Goshawk, and I still think so. Tom Soniville says he never saw a Coop close to this size…and everything about this bird looks super robust…plus very heavy breast/belly/flank markings that extend quite far down the belly as is typical for Gos…too bad one can’t see the tail bands better to look for the wavy margins typical of a Goshawk, but still…

Dave Whitacre

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 8:51 PM bike4birds <tmccabe9@…> wrote:

I know I’m late to this party, but I wonder if this could be an immature N. Goshawk? Size is hard to figure in a photo, but Tom said it was quite large. I agree that females are larger than males in most raptors, but I’m wondering if we
are all assuming the typical hawk for this area, but it’s the time of year when ANYTHINJG could be coming through, especially given the weather. I have only occasionally seen a N. Goshawk in Boise, but it wouldn’t be unheard of. And, yes, it does have the
teardrop markings, but it also appears to have a white eyebrow line.

Just sayin’.

Tom McCabe, Boise

 

From: IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Louisa Evers
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 7:49 PM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Hawk ID

 

May also be a female as they are bigger than males. 

 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 18:25 Tom & Susan Soniville <tomnsueid@…> wrote:

John and Louisa,

 

Thanks for setting me straight. What threw me was the size of this Coopers.  We would get them in the yard of our house in the North End, but never saw one close to this size. It
must be eating well .

 

Tom Soniville

 

From:
IBLE@groups.io <IBLE@groups.io>
On Behalf Of John Shortis via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 10:20 AM
To: IBLE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [IBLE] Hawk ID

 

Looks like Cooper’s. 

The “teardrop” shaped streaks on this juvenile bird is indicative of Cooper’s.

Also the rounded tail (though not glaringly evident on this bird).

Nice photos!

 

John Shortis.

 

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 07:49:07 PM MDT, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@…>
wrote:

 

 

It’s an immature Cooper’s hawk

 

On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 7:47 PM Tom & Susan Soniville <tomnsueid@…>
wrote:

Came across this hawk in the foothills this afternoon.  First thought was a sharp-shinned, but it seems too large. Is this
another form of red tail morph?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom Soniville



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Boise. North End

Louisa Evers

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Louisa Evers

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Re: Hawk ID

I think Tom McCabe is right…my immediate take was Goshawk, and I still think so. Tom Soniville says he never saw a Coop close to this size…and everything about this bird looks super robust…plus very heavy breast/belly/flank markings that extend quite far down the belly as is typical for Gos…too bad one can’t see the tail bands better to look for the wavy margins typical of a Goshawk, but still…

Dave Whitacre

Re: Hawk ID


I know I’m late to this party, but I wonder if this could be an immature N. Goshawk? Size is hard to figure in a photo, but Tom said it was quite large. I agree that females are larger than males in most raptors, but I’m wondering if we
are all assuming the typical hawk for this area, but it’s the time of year when ANYTHINJG could be coming through, especially given the weather. I have only occasionally seen a N. Goshawk in Boise, but it wouldn’t be unheard of. And, yes, it does have the
teardrop markings, but it also appears to have a white eyebrow line.

Just sayin’.

Tom McCabe, Boise

 

Re: Hawk ID

Looks like Cooper’s. 
The “teardrop” shaped streaks on this juvenile bird is indicative of Cooper’s.
Also the rounded tail (though not glaringly evident on this bird).
Nice photos!
John Shortis.

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 07:49:07 PM MDT, Louisa Evers <elouisa603@…> wrote:
It’s an immature Cooper’s hawk