Re: Grebes

When I heard them asking me and others at the main parking lot if hunting was allowed there, I told them it probably was but that to be sure they should call IDF&G. They said they were hunting ducks and I told them the only ducks I had seen were Ruddy Ducks.

They left the main parking area and then I drove down to the little parking area by the dam to go check out what was on that end of the reservoir. They were there putting waders on and getting their shotguns out. They said they had seen some ducks and were going to give it a go.
I saw no ducks when I went down to the shore just a lot of Eared Grebes close and far out, a couple of Pied-billed Grebes and a few Western Grebes far out from shore.. About the time I turned around and headed back I heard the shots and wondered what they were shooting at. 
When I got to them after I heard the shots they were trying to retrieve the Grebes but found out quickly that it dropped off fast and said they were going to let the wind blow them to shore up by the dam. 

I also told them what they had shot and that they were not good to eat. And they said they ground them up with venison and made sausage and jerky. I did not see them shoot the birds but they said they did. I saw a flock of mallards flying by on the other side of the reservoir just after they shot. When I talked to them I told them what the ducks were that flew after they shot and they were the only ducks I had seen on that end of the reservoir. One told the other “I told you they were mallards”.
I did not know until this string started that Grebes were not legal migratory game birds. As I noted earlier back in my hunting days I did not hunt grebes since I had no intention of eating them. My grandfather said they were not good to eat so that was that and I never paid any attention to them until I got into birding many years later. Now I even know there are a number of different types of Grebes and after today that none of them are migratory game birds that can be hunted.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 11:12 PM, Robert Kiernan via groups.io <photobirder@…> wrote:


I’m waiting to hear back from fish &game just in case they want to check it out to catch these guys does any one know how long grebe stay around the 2 hunters I talked to said they hunt there often I did not witness them with grebes Ken did 

Ken Miracle
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208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Re: Blk crk resv

Nothing at all like a drivers license. If you are not going to eat a bear and do not want to hunt a bear there is no reason to read the bear hunting section of the regulations. A drivers license is an entirely different entity.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 5:09 PM, bob perata via groups.io <bobperata@…> wrote:


Well, I guess one can put that into the same perspective as getting a drivers license.  

Just came bak from Blacks Creek Bird Preserve and it was just a beautiful autumn scene out there. 
Enjoy the day.  

On Oct 22, 2024, at 4:37 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

And when I did I only paid attention to those things I wanted to eat.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 4:07 PM, bob perata via groups.io <bobperata@…> wrote:


 When you purchase an Idaho State hunting license you acknowledge that you ‘know the Idaho State Hunting Rules’. 

Just like getting a Drivers license, you acknowledge that you know all the driving rules.  

On Oct 22, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

First you have to know that it is a violation🥹

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

I saw them twice but including after they had shot the Grebes. It has been so many years since I was hunting with a gun I did not even know Grebes were protected.  64 years ago my Grandfather “divers” like coots were not good to eat so to never shoot one so I ignored them all of my hunting career. As I said earlier I did not know Grebes were not legal to shoot until it was mentioned during this thread. I do not have photos, names or anything else, I believe the vehicle was red.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Regan,Tempe via groups.io <tempe.regan@…> wrote:


Does anyone know if the shooting of the grebes was reported to IDFG in that region? In the future, if you can get a vehicle description or license plate and any other details (the more the better) it goes a long way to helping them in actually making the case.
 
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Regional Wildlife Diversity Biologist
Idaho Department of Fish and Game
99 US-93
Salmon, ID 83467
Office: 208.756.2271
Mobile: 406.396.4856
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I saw two hunters who asked if hunting was allowed there. It is.
 
I heard them shooting later and saw them waiting for a couple of Eared Grebes to float in with the wind they found out it was not wadable where they were. I told them the birds were not very good to eat but they said they ground them up for sausage and jerky.
On Oct 21, 2024, at 3:18PM, Robert Kiernan via groups.io <photobirder@…> wrote:
 
 I’m here ran into some duck hunters i thought  no hunting allowed when confronted them they  said they hunt here often  I’m I wrong on the no hunting 
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5
 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Re: Blk crk resv

And when I did I only paid attention to those things I wanted to eat.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 4:07 PM, bob perata via groups.io <bobperata@…> wrote:


 When you purchase an Idaho State hunting license you acknowledge that you ‘know the Idaho State Hunting Rules’. 

Just like getting a Drivers license, you acknowledge that you know all the driving rules.  

On Oct 22, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

First you have to know that it is a violation🥹

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

I saw them twice but including after they had shot the Grebes. It has been so many years since I was hunting with a gun I did not even know Grebes were protected.  64 years ago my Grandfather “divers” like coots were not good to eat so to never shoot one so I ignored them all of my hunting career. As I said earlier I did not know Grebes were not legal to shoot until it was mentioned during this thread. I do not have photos, names or anything else, I believe the vehicle was red.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Regan,Tempe via groups.io <tempe.regan@…> wrote:


Does anyone know if the shooting of the grebes was reported to IDFG in that region? In the future, if you can get a vehicle description or license plate and any other details (the more the better) it goes a long way to helping them in actually making the case.
 
***********************
Tempe Regan (she/her)
Regional Wildlife Diversity Biologist
Idaho Department of Fish and Game
99 US-93
Salmon, ID 83467
Office: 208.756.2271
Mobile: 406.396.4856
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I saw two hunters who asked if hunting was allowed there. It is.
 
I heard them shooting later and saw them waiting for a couple of Eared Grebes to float in with the wind they found out it was not wadable where they were. I told them the birds were not very good to eat but they said they ground them up for sausage and jerky.
On Oct 21, 2024, at 3:18PM, Robert Kiernan via groups.io <photobirder@…> wrote:
 
 I’m here ran into some duck hunters i thought  no hunting allowed when confronted them they  said they hunt here often  I’m I wrong on the no hunting 
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5
 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Re: Blk crk resv

I have not purchased a hunting or fishing license in years.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 4:07 PM, bob perata via groups.io <bobperata@…> wrote:


 When you purchase an Idaho State hunting license you acknowledge that you ‘know the Idaho State Hunting Rules’. 

Just like getting a Drivers license, you acknowledge that you know all the driving rules.  

On Oct 22, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

First you have to know that it is a violation🥹

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Ken Miracle via groups.io <chukar28@…> wrote:

I saw them twice but including after they had shot the Grebes. It has been so many years since I was hunting with a gun I did not even know Grebes were protected.  64 years ago my Grandfather “divers” like coots were not good to eat so to never shoot one so I ignored them all of my hunting career. As I said earlier I did not know Grebes were not legal to shoot until it was mentioned during this thread. I do not have photos, names or anything else, I believe the vehicle was red.

On Oct 22, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Regan,Tempe via groups.io <tempe.regan@…> wrote:


Does anyone know if the shooting of the grebes was reported to IDFG in that region? In the future, if you can get a vehicle description or license plate and any other details (the more the better) it goes a long way to helping them in actually making the case.
 
***********************
Tempe Regan (she/her)
Regional Wildlife Diversity Biologist
Idaho Department of Fish and Game
99 US-93
Salmon, ID 83467
Office: 208.756.2271
Mobile: 406.396.4856
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I saw two hunters who asked if hunting was allowed there. It is.
 
I heard them shooting later and saw them waiting for a couple of Eared Grebes to float in with the wind they found out it was not wadable where they were. I told them the birds were not very good to eat but they said they ground them up for sausage and jerky.
On Oct 21, 2024, at 3:18PM, Robert Kiernan via groups.io <photobirder@…> wrote:
 
 I’m here ran into some duck hunters i thought  no hunting allowed when confronted them they  said they hunt here often  I’m I wrong on the no hunting 
 
Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5
 

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5

Ken Miracle
chukar28@…
208-570-2780
“Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God” 2COR 3:5