Re: [IBLE] life beyond suet… ??

thx Bill, for others with Macs……..

Peanut Butter Stuff (PBS)

Melt together 1/2 cup lard and 1/2 cup chunky peanut butter (microwave), then add stuff in approximate amounts:

lately I’ve been starting with a commercial suet cake and adding chunky PB (magic stuff)

1 cup corn meal

1 cup oatmeal (I use 5-seed “bulk” from WinCo)

1/2 cup flour (whatever’s on hand, prefer whole grain or whole wheat)

1/4 cup sugar

1/2 cup chopped nuts, e.g., almonds, walnuts, pnuts, sunseed, again whatever’s on hand

Combine melted and dry ingredients and mix well, might take a bit more microwaving.

Can be made into suet cakes (for wire cages) or stuffed into holes in a suet log (good for defeating starlings, but magpies aren’t fooled very long, haha)

credit – original author was a master hummingbird bander in Alabama, 20+ yrs ago……..

From: “Bill Moore”
To: “Larry Arnold”
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 4:07:47 PM
Subject: Re: [IBLE] life beyond suet… ?? [1 Attachment]

Your link wouldn’t open on my Mac. Copy and paste it?

Bill

On Nov 29, 2019, at 3:35 PM, LARRY ARNOLD [ mailto:larnold47@cableone.net | larnold47@cableone.net ] [ible] < [ mailto:ible-noreply@yahoogroups.com | ible-noreply@yahoogroups.com ] > wrote:

[ https://xa.yimg..com/kq/groups/1580014/1248515552/name/PBS2%20Oct%202019.doc | PBS2 Oct 2019.doc ]

[IBLE] Re: migration and irruption

IBLE, with cc’s to people otherwise unable to receive ~~~~~ ?

I don’t remember responding to Carl’s note below……. maybe yes in my dreams?

Carl provides excellent discussion, and I’ve gotta say that migration in all of its “formats” has long been one of my topmost two or three favorite subjects regarding birds, and Peter Berthold’s “General Survey” (2001, maybe since updated?) (Oxford Ornithology Series) has been one of my favorite references on topic. I can offer only conjectures, e.g., that “irruptive species” utilize irruption as a precondition to range expansion in a manner similar to “vagrant species” that are doing the same thing but at a slower pace.. As an example, some warbler species tend to wander out of their expected ranges much more often than others do, and looking back at state-level CBC data I can see that ECDO are expanding northward way faster than WWDO, yada yada et yada. I’ve often thought of out-of-range birds as genetic outliers that are necessary for a given species’ adaptive survival in a universe that is continually changing, whether they be considered as “typical migrants” or not. And I’ve not often considered “irruption” to be a black-and-white phenomenon for this or that species, vs. not for other species where it is much more subtle. Does this make sense? Seems to me there is a “spectrum” of “irruption” with some species being far less obvious at it than others….?

Maybe somebody can provide clarity, or reference to published data re “migration and propensity toward irruption” as it might relate to genetic variability. But I can’t imagine what such “data” might look like.

Thank you, Carl, 10^6 for your discussion below. Love it !! =)

Larry
W Boise / Garden City

From: “Carl Lundblad carl.lundblad@gmail.com [ible]”
Cc: “IBLE”
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:28:37 AM
Subject: Re: [IBLE] And Then There Were…Three

Blue Jays move (presumably mostly out of Alberta) into (mostly north) Idaho each year in the fall. Some years it’s a few. Some years it’s a lot. This year happens to be a banner year with large numbers arriving throughout Idaho, including in more places than usual, and some making it as far south as northern Nevada, Utah, and southern Wyoming (below which they bump up against the breeding population on the Front Range). Montana is complicated because they have a breeding population (and some of our winter birds may come from there), but they also receive an influx during fall and winter. They are undoubtedly attracted to and facilitated by feeders and urbanization. While there may have been a slow range expansion over the last quarter century, this is much more a case of year-to-year variation in an irruptive species than a directional trend. Most or all of them will leave in the spring, although it wouldn’t be surprising if a few eventually began breeding in Idaho (probably initially following with a big irruption year, like this).
Good Birding,

Carl Lundblad
Moscow, Idaho

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 7:32 AM [ mailto:lcarrigan_55@yahoo.com | lcarrigan_55@yahoo.com ] [ible] < [ mailto:ible-noreply@yahoogroups.com | ible-noreply@yahoogroups.com ] > wrote:

Since sunrise this morning, I’ve been watching 3 Blue Jays coming in to feed on both whole corn kernels & black-oil sunflower seeds. Oftentimes, with all 3 present at once.

Given the reports this fall of Blue Jays, esp in E ID, I pulled my records. My only Steller’s Jay sighting at our place along the Snake River was 10/8/2000, feeding in our dry overflow channel. First Blue Jay sighting was 5/16/2012 at the feeder. Then, last year, the one which overwintered, arrived on 10/21/2018 to the feeder.

Makes for some interesting questions. Are we witnessing a fall irruption of Blue Jays? Or, do we have a front row seat to observing the range expansion of Blue Jays? Is providing a seed source through feeders aiding a range expansion? Would be interested in others’ thoughts. Probably too early to draw firm conclusions, but interesting, nonetheless.

My 3rd generation farmer buddy tells me his mom, who was a hobby birder used to see the occasional Blue Jay years ago, at the family homestead, a mile directly west of me. And, as an aside, until Starlings showed, Mt Bluebirds would nest all through this area…even in their mailbox once! The mailman had them nail a box up nearby, so as not to disturb the bluebirds. That would have been in the 1960’s. A lot has changed since then.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot

[IBLE] life beyond suet… ?? [1 Attachment]

It’s 31F here in W Boise, overcast, calm, and good-sized snowflakes have been drifting downward, lazily, much of the afternoon, Cooper’s Hawk has visited our backyard bird feeding station a couple times, presumably to maintain order and heightened vigilance, geese are huddled together across the street, mallards and wood ducks are snooping around under the crabapple trees, and impish feathered beasties have been constantly working my caged PBS suet (loose recipe attached)… including chickadees, nuthatches, kinglets, juncos, woodpeckers, sparrows. There’s been a nonstop parade to/from the suet, so I can’t help but wonder… what would these ‘lil squirts be doing without my suet offering?

“Hi ho, Curious George, I have no idea!” she said.

Larry

Re: [IBLE] IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

Thank you for your efforts and for finding what you think will be a
suitable replacement for IBLE. I do enjoy reading the reports and anecdotes
from around the state. When people tell the tale of their bird sightings,
it is more interesting to me than a posting of species, place, and time.
Backyard tales can be just as attention-getting as stories from the field.
So keep those stories coming.

Diann Stone Boise Depot Bench

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:57 PM Cliff and Lisa Weisse
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com [ible] wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> We’ve decided to transfer IBLE to groups.io. This will hopefully take
> place within a few days. Once the transfer begins we’ll notify you and
> all email will stop being received at yahoogroups. You’ll also receive
> an invitation to join the new group. It should be an easy process. The
> transfer isn’t free. If anyone wants to contribute to the cause please
> contact me privately.
>
> Cliff
>
> —
> Cliff and Lisa Weisse
> Island Park, Idaho
> cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com
>
>
>

[IBLE] Fwd: IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

and now i’m “blind-forwarding” Cliff’s note to other email addresses i’ve found looking thru recent postings……….

not sure how to reach everyone who can no longer use ible or see ible archives, since there were 800+ peoples on the list when i last peeked

might take time to rebuild / reconstruct / a robust listserv for Idaho birders?

LA

From: “Larry Arnold”
To: “Larry Arnold”
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 12:07:00 PM
Subject: Fwd: IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

“blind-copying” this note from Cliff to birders on my email list because some folks have reported to me they are unable to view or use IBLE

sorry if this is duplication for many of you…

LA

From: “Cliff and Lisa Weisse cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com [ible]”
To: “IBLE”
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:49:13 PM
Subject: [IBLE] IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

All,

We’ve decided to transfer IBLE to groups.io. This will hopefully take
place within a few days. Once the transfer begins we’ll notify you and
all email will stop being received at yahoogroups. You’ll also receive
an invitation to join the new group. It should be an easy process. The
transfer isn’t free. If anyone wants to contribute to the cause please
contact me privately.

Cliff


Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com

Re: [IBLE] Bird. Search

omg, Bob, warning warning !!

i had to take my computer in to a repair shop to get all the FB bugs out of it

pls seriously reconsider, dude =)

and i’m on your side

eyiyi

From: “Robert Kiernan photobirder@gmail.com [ible]”
To: “IBLE”
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 2:37:58 PM
Subject: [IBLE] Bird. Search

What is most reliable site for bird sightings now is it Facebook and how to connect

[IBLE] Fwd: [eBird Alert] Ada County Rare Bird Alert <daily>

apologies for this totally weird cross-posting note, but

way to go POO =)

persistence rocks !!!

and so do the host and hostess =)

I’ve always thought of Cheryl as the Persistence Queen of Idaho, and think I still do, maybe….. ja?

LA

—– Forwarded Message —–
From: ebird-alert@cornell.edu
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 3:02:25 AM
Subject: [eBird Alert] Ada County Rare Bird Alert

*** Species Summary:

– Dark-eyed Junco (Pink-sided) (1 report)
– Ovenbird (3 reports)

———————————————
Thank you for subscribing to the Ada County Rare Bird Alert.The report below shows observations of rare birds in Ada County. View or unsubscribe to this alert at https://ebird.org/alert/summary?sid=SN36228
NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED unless indicated

Dark-eyed Junco (Pink-sided) (Junco hyemalis mearnsi) (1)
– Reported Nov 27, 2019 12:25 by Jason Talbot
– Home, Ada, Idaho
– Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=43.7127895,-116.3183177&ll=43.7127895,-116.3183177
– Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S61798715
– Comments: “Pink sides. Lighter Gray head with dark prominent lores extending around eyes.”

Ovenbird (Seiurus aurocapilla) (1)
– Reported Nov 27, 2019 15:40 by POO WRIGHT-PULLIAM
– 505 S Bitteroot Dr, Boise US-ID (43.6000,-116.2790), Ada, Idaho
– Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=43.600002,-116.279006&ll=43.600002,-116.279006
– Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S61805636
– Comments: “In its favorite spot under the rosemary(?). Gray brown back and wings with orange cap and white eyering, chest white with dark spots leading down chest. Pale bill. My fourth try! Idaho 1st for me.”

Ovenbird (Seiurus aurocapilla) (1)
– Reported Nov 27, 2019 11:12 by Heidi Ware Carlisle
– Bitteroot House, Ada, Idaho
– Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=43.5998196,-116.278855&ll=43.5998196,-116.278855
– Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S61797426
– Comments: “Watched for almost 20 minutes in back yard. Pierced in lilac tree preening and stretching. Also seen at 1012 and 1032 for short bouts”

Ovenbird (Seiurus aurocapilla) (1)
– Reported Nov 27, 2019 11:12 by Jay Carlisle
– Bitteroot House, Ada, Idaho
– Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=43.5998196,-116.278855&ll=43.5998196,-116.278855
– Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S61797427
– Comments: “Watched for almost 20 minutes in back yard. Pierced in lilac tree preening and stretching. Also seen at 1012 and 1032 for short bouts”

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Re: [IBLE] IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

extreme thanks Cliff……. LOVE this news !!

apologies for online / public / answer but YES i want to contribute to the transfer, moi feel compelled and I hope others do too……..

pls give us an idea of price, one-time? vs. are there recurring charges?

again, infinite apologies like 10^6 for responding in public vs. your request for off-line reply

I for one can’t live in Idaho w/o a public non-FB forum for birds and birding, just can’t, because after moving 20 +/- times during our lives together, Missy and I don’t need / nor want / any more moves

i.e., meaning all y’all might be stuck with us for the duration of our lives, so sorry 😉

yeehah?

tisk

From: “Cliff and Lisa Weisse cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com [ible]”
To: “IBLE”
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:49:13 PM
Subject: [IBLE] IBLE Transfer to Groups.io

All,

We’ve decided to transfer IBLE to groups.io. This will hopefully take
place within a few days. Once the transfer begins we’ll notify you and
all email will stop being received at yahoogroups. You’ll also receive
an invitation to join the new group. It should be an easy process. The
transfer isn’t free. If anyone wants to contribute to the cause please
contact me privately.

Cliff


Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com