Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead

Good grief, time for me to go to bed. I got into more than I intended. The main habitats in the area above the elevation threshold are riparian, sage, hence the Brewers Sparrows, and coniferous.
There are also clusters of Cottonwoods in the riparian area that have produced some Red-eyed Vireos. Some bitter brush mixed in with sage has also produced some Blue-gray Gnatcatchers and Bushtits.
Within a 3 mile hike you can hit all these habitats with a great variety of species. It’s a fun area to bird. Plus I’ve seen two Bears on two different occasions as a bonus!
May God bless and help us sustain the freedoms of this nation! Thanks to all the Veterans who have served our country! Today was a good and humbling day as I’ve thought about your sacrifice.
Good night! 

Re: Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead

Hello,
For those unaware of this area, it is in the upper Boise foothills and highest elevation in Ada County. It is down the ridge a few miles from Intermountain Bird Observatory where Boise State has a banding station for owls, raptors and songbirds. 
We get a variety of birds in a few miles of upper elevation along the ridge not seen anywhere else in the county. Pileated Woodpecker for example. Species also vary by season. For example, if I remember correctly, Yellow Warbler flags (rare) earlier in spring at higher elevations when they’re in the valley but don’t get flagged currently. 
Anyway, I continued up the trail onto upper Five Mile Gulch (not road) to the summit and across the summit on the road for a little ways. I hiked up the Orchard Gulch Trail a mile or so before I started my checklist for reasons I won’t go into. I normally start my list at the trailhead. The birds you mentioned were all above tree line.
There’s an elevation filter in eBird between Five Mile and Orchard Gulch Trails as you drive up Shaw Mountain Road. Therefore, I include Upper Five Mile Gulch Trail on my Orchard Gulch list when I continue past where they intersect because of elevation change. If not, it flags many birds as rare because of the higher elevation if I were to include them on my Five Mile Gulch Trail list; which starts below the elevation threshold whereas Orchard Gulch Trail starts above the elevation threshold.
I wish the higher elevation filter were a little less sensitive but it will get dialed in eventually with enough birders reporting in that area. I’ve learned to be patient after going through some frustration because I see the wisdom in creating the elevation filter.
For example, I consistently see Black-headed Grosbeaks, Brewer’s Sparrow and swallows at the higher elevations to name a few. There are still some riparian areas above the elevation threshold as well so you’ll see a Catbird and lower elevation birds every once in a while. Chats are regulars at Orchard Gulch that get flagged.
I’d hate to see an Ada County checklist without an elevation filter that would include Cassin’s Finch as a year round option in the valley when they’re typically seen a few weeks in the spring and fall with a few exceptions yet they’re year round up top. There are several birds that fit this category. It creates a lot more identification mistakes in eBird from new birders.
Good, bad or indifferent, that’s what I decided to do since it’s similar habitat. I’m open to suggestions. I normally keep those details in the comments section but I didn’t this time. That would have helped in this situation and perhaps make this a nonissue.
The other options were create 2 checklists (not) but I’m under the 5 mile rule in the same habitat or create another hotspot which I would be opposed to. 
I liked the way I did it but I should have added comments on how I hiked it.
I think this makes for a good discussion on a couple of topics if others have thoughts.
Jason 

Jason Talbot re: Orchard Gulch Trailhead

Jason — I believe you monitor this forum so I hope to contact you this way. I saw your eBird list of May 28 from Orchard Gulch Trailhead. I was there the same day a couple hours after you as well as yesterday. Your list has many birds on it I totally missed and I am interested in how you bird that area to see them. Some birds that stand out were: Hairy and Pileated Woodpecker, Clark’s Nutcracker, the nuthatches, Brown Creeper, and Dark-eyed Juncos.  I walked up the trail itself and never came across any of these birds. Did you walk up the road from the trailhead to the summit? Any thoughts would be appreciated. You can reach me here or at satuthill at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.

Scott Tuthill

Re: N Catbird

Appreciate the responses. Given your response, Bill, was hoping some House Wrens would show today, but no luck. However, don’t give up hope on the BH-RB Grosbeak hybrid, the first that appeared on our place sev yrs ago was a hybrid, just like Sibley’s. 

Hadn’t seen the RB Grosbeak since last WK, but appeared briefly at feeder this AM. Also, Bullock’s Oriole & W Tanager. Added the orange slice/grape jelly feeder today.

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot

Re: N Catbird

I’ll add to the “House Wrens –  Where Are They Question”.  I have seen/heard several at Deer Flat Refuge in Nampa and when birding out and about in SW Idaho, but we have had them nesting in our yard for several years but not this year.  And I’m not seeing/hearing as many as in past.

Cheryl in Caldwell

 

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Re: N Catbird

Odd… I’m hearing house wrens nearly every day except in our backyard, where they set up housekeeping last year in a super deluxe bungalow hand-made and painted by a friend in Boise.  I’ll just have to be patient.  Catbirds are in Montour WMA; chats, lazulis, and yellow warblers all in their quarters, nearby kestrels have fledged, saw female western tanagers this a.m. on Shalerock Rd, near Black Canyon Res.  Surprise Dusky flycatcher at Emmett Wastewater Treatment Plant this afternoon.

And that’s the Gem County minute,
Liz Medes

Re: N Catbird

Our house wrens showed up en masse yesterday. I saw at least five at one time and they seem to be staking out usual sites around the house, in the woods and at the barn. Interesting thing was one of the first had a faulty, unusual song. When the gang appeared the faulty song stopped and everyone is now singing familiar refrain. You’d think it would have heard right song in winter range. They are a full month later than last year.

We’ve got hummers hitting feeders, but at a rate that’s about a third the rate over the last several years. They showed up on time however. I wonder if bird disease is reducing their numbers. I see no evidence of sick or slower birds however.
Lots of Lazuli and BH Grosbeaks and Cassins are still hanging out as are SIskens. My latest project is trying to turn some of the BH into BH/Rosebreasted hybrids per Sibley. As usual Evenings fled when BH appeared. Turkeys encourage dogs to want to get up and chase them out back at about 5:45 AM most mornings.
Bill Moore
Hoot Owl
Inkom

N Catbird

New arrival today is a N Catbird. Plenty of BH Grosbeaks, Lazuli Buntings & Yellow Warblers here. Finally saw a W Tanager yest AM. Curiously absent are House Wrens. Have seen a total of 2, this spring, over 3 wk apart. Usually, by now, already building their nests. And know where at least 4 should be nesting. Zero around for past 10 days. Do have a robin nesting under eave of garage at bend in gutter downspout. And have seen a Wild Turkey with 2 young fluff balls trotting beneath her. 

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot