The white supercilium is also very narrow, consistent with Red-naped and
not as wide as I’d expect on Yellow-bellied. Based on the photos I’m not
sure there’s a reason to suspect this isn’t a pure Red-naped???

Cliff

On 12/15/2017 02:41 PM, Carl Lundblad carl.lundblad@gmail.com [ible] wrote:
> I’m a little rusty on sapsuckers, but the additional photos help rule
> out a pure yellow-bellied because, in addition to the extensive red on
> the nape, the white/creamy barring on the back is arranged into 2 neat
> rows divided by a distinct black stripe, whereas a yellow-bellied
> would show broader white (or golden) barring all the way down the
> back, not strongly arranged in 2 narrow and separate rows.
>
> The better-lit photos from RL (is it definitely the same individual?)
> make me wonder if we can even rule out a pure red-naped.  Jason’s
> original photo looked like the bird has a thick and complete black
> border all the way around the red throat patch, but on RL’s photos you
> can see that there is extensive bleeding of red into the black border,
> such that it no longer looks particularly complete.
>
> Interesting bird and a great find for CBC week (and hopefully refound
> tomorrow), regardless.
>
> Carl Lundblad,
> Moscow, ID
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Jason Talbot jason.talbot1@yahoo.com
> [ible] > wrote:
>
> [Attachment(s) <#m_-4404947117027617330_TopText> from Jason Talbot
> included below]
> Attached are a couple more photos from RL
>
> On Friday, December 15, 2017, 1:42:41 PM MST, Jason Talbot
> jason.talbot1@yahoo.com [ible]
> > wrote:
>
>
> [Attachment(s) <#m_-4404947117027617330_TopText> from Jason Talbot
> included below]
> I found a possible YBSA at Morris Hill Cemetery today. Attached is
> a poor photo. I called RL and he took some better photos. We can’t
> rule out hybrid right now. I’ll send better photos later. I wanted
> to send this out in case you wanted to see it today in case it is
> a YBSA.
>
> Section M in big pine behind section M and P signs directly west
> of yellow building at entrance.
>
> The biggest thing for me was the thicker black line all the way
> around the red throat. It had more red on the nape than I’d like
> but it’s a lighter red (pinkish). It also had yellow surrounding
> black bib. The rear crown feathers were raised to form a crest
> when I first saw it. I realize there is variability between RNSA &
> YBSA in everything I mentioned but I’ll send out better photos for
> better input. I’m not sure what to look for in hybrids.
>
>
>

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Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com