HI – has anyone seen the White-winged Dove since Stoddard’s post last Wednesday? Thx…Jonathan

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From: ible@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Stoddard Davenport s_g_davenport@hotmail.com [ible]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:34 AM
To: ible@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [IBLE] White-winged Dove is back at the Warm Springs Golf Course [Boise]

Hi IBLErs,

I got an early morning tip from Missy Arnold that a White-winged Dove was present at the Warm Springs Golf Course. Presumably this is the same individual that’s used the area on and off for a couple of years now. I made it over there a little after 8 and could hear it calling from deep within one of the large pine trees between the clubhouse and the greenbelt, but couldn’t get a visual. It kept going silent as I approached, and must have flown out the backside (towards the clubhouse) as I approached from the greenbelt, because I heard it calling again in some trees on the far side of the clubhouse as well. I ran out of time to try to get a visual on it before I had to get back to work, but others may have better luck.

Thanks for the heads up Missy!

Good birding!

Stoddard Davenport

Boise

There is a Scissor-tailed Flycatcher near Camas NWR (Jefferson County). It’s on a dirt road that parallels the main entrance road into Camas (2300 north). To get there drive the main road towards Camas, before you get to the headquarters, turn left onto 2200 east then before you get into the refuge turn left onto 2300N. The bird was about a half mile down the road on the north side of the road sort of near the 2nd house on the left.

Darren Clark
Rexburg

Sent from my iPhone

FWIW, I’ve thought some of the SB Dowitchers we see in Island Park are
of the Prairie/hendersoni ssp because of the limited black markings on
the flanks. I’ve sent photos around to west coast shorebirders and
received no support for hendersoni. Apparently many birds of the west
coast/caurinus ssp look very much like these birds and can be
confidently assigned to that taxon. If memory serves the entirely orange
underparts of hendersoni was a key point of distinction and our birds
all had at least some white below. Not sure about some of the brighter
juveniles we see in fall but that’s what I learned about our spring SBDOs.

Cliff

On 06/10/2017 10:10 AM, ‘Larry Arnold’ larnold47@cableone.net [ible] wrote:
> Wish Sibley would include ssp names, not just ranges, so I could
> cross-examine the bird 😉 because it strikes me most as L. g.
> hendersoni (ssp of SB) per Kaufman, based on the appearance of flanks
> and belly in the first photo below. But is this a stretch, since the
> range of hendersoni is more Prairie than Pacific (where L. g. caurinus
> lurks), even tho Kaufman drops a little hint on pg 69 that hendersoni
> is not impossible hereabouts?

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Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com

While heading to Pennal Gulch this afternoon, I head the loud “coo” call of a Yellow-billed Cuckoo coming from a patch of willows on the west side of Hwy 93. I was already on the Pennal Gulch access loop off the highway, so I pulled around and got back on the highway in hopes of finding a place to pull off and check out the trees. No pull-offs plus signage that one is not supposed to park anywhere along the highway kept me from searching the trees, although I did pull to the side for a couple of minutes to scan the dense patch. Unfortunately, cuckoos are good at hiding and I had no luck spotting it. It’s possible, too, that it flew while I was getting turned around.
A Yellow-billed Cuckoo hung out at Pennal Gulch for a couple of weeks back in the latter half of June in 2000. Most migrant sightings reported on eBird have been in June. It would be worth checking this area to see if the cuckoo stops for a while, although access in to Pennal Gulch is somewhat hampered by high water.
Wendy McCradyChallis, ID

Will forgo my ego and vote. 😉

From the photos, Amy’s note to me about flight calls that she heard (favoring SB), considering the many factors discussed by Kaufman in his Advanced Birding (1990), and based on discussions of brightness and extent of the supercilium (not discussed in any of my field guides), discussions I recall having with birders on the Gulf Coast (leading TOS Conference field trips) who had much experience with both sp, my vote is for SB.

Problem areas for me are the neck (stripped of feathers?), flanks (spotting as opposed to barring), and the belly (can’t see well enough to determine extent, if any, of white). Wish Sibley would include ssp names, not just ranges, so I could cross-examine the bird 😉 because it strikes me most as L. g. hendersoni (ssp of SB) per Kaufman, based on the appearance of flanks and belly in the first photo below. But is this a stretch, since the range of hendersoni is more Prairie than Pacific (where L. g. caurinus lurks), even tho Kaufman drops a little hint on pg 69 that hendersoni is not impossible hereabouts?

Anyway, I vote for SB, for what it’s worth. Excellent find, Amy! Great discussion, Amy and Jay! =)

Larry

From: ible@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:ible@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Carlisle carlislejay@yahoo.com [ible]
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 10:29 PM
To: amysilver819@gmail.com
Cc: ible@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [IBLE] Short-billed (?) Dowitcher still at Blacks Creek (Ada Co) [3 Attachments]

[Attachment(s) from Jay Carlisle included below]

Amy Silver found an oiled-looking dowitcher at Blacks Creek Reservoir (Ada Co) a few days ago and the extent of white in the tail seemed promising for a Short-billed. She saw it again & heard it call yesterday. Early evening today Bryce, Heidi, & I re-located it near the mouth of Blacks Creek as it enters the reservoir on the E end and were able to grab a few pics that seem to support Short-billed: among other features, (1) tail ~50% white, (2) small spots on sides of chest that transition to barring on the flanks, and (3) gold edges on the back feathers. Any input welcome.

Also, lots of other diversity there & RL was out there looking earlier in the afternoon and found a Red-necked Grebe on the deeper water – a great find for this spot and time of year!

Jay

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On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:42 PM, amysilver819@gmail.com [ible] wrote:

Hi Everybody. This poor bird was at Blacks Creek Reservoir yesterday. Looks like some sort of dowitcher, but both short and long-billed are considered rare right now (by ebird). He seems thin, but that’s maybe just because he’s unwell?

The bird was pretty messed up, so I gave him plenty of space…

I’ve never really tried to differentiate between the dowitchers, but this one struck me as different (maybe just acting strangely because he was sick?) In most of the photos (not many), his tail is covered by his wings, but in this one, you can really see the white bands. The bill and face seem right, but he’s in bad shape and it’s hard to see color patterns in the sad mess of feathers. Any thoughts before I try to submit the report to ebird? There doesn’t seem to be a “short-billed/long-billed dowitcher” option 🙂

Thanks!

Amy Silver (Boise)

Hello all,
I visited the Island Park Dam around noon yesterday and, eventually, found the bird. It had moved way out on the water away from the dam. I set up my scope at the gravel boat launch adjacent to dam and scanned northward The scoter was alone and diving approx 150 yards out.

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Amy Silver found an oiled-looking dowitcher at Blacks Creek Reservoir (Ada Co) a few days ago and the extent of white in the tail seemed promising for a Short-billed. She saw it again & heard it call yesterday. Early evening today Bryce, Heidi, & I re-located it near the mouth of Blacks Creek as it enters the reservoir on the E end and were able to grab a few pics that seem to support Short-billed: among other features, (1) tail ~50% white, (2) small spots on sides of chest that transition to barring on the flanks, and (3) gold edges on the back feathers. Any input welcome.

Also, lots of other diversity there & RL was out there looking earlier in the afternoon and found a Red-necked Grebe on the deeper water – a great find for this spot and time of year!

Jay

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The scoter was present this AM, again right against the base of the dam.
It was diving actively today.

Cliff

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Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com

The scoter was there all afternoon today foraging among Western Grebes
in front of Island Park Dam. It was swimming around picking at the
surface and once it got chased a short distance by a Western Grebe. It
wasn’t as close and I only had 8x binocs with me but it definitely has
dark brown extending well out onto the base of the bill. Bill is getting
orange and has some pale whitish area on it. Nape is solidly dark brown
as is the entire upperparts. Flanks are paler brown contrasting slightly
but noticeably with back. Eye appeared pale/whitish but it was too far
to be sure if it was just the iris. I didn’t notice any white around the
eye yesterday. A very neat looking bird.

Cliff

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Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com

Hi Everybody. This poor bird was at Blacks Creek Reservoir yesterday. Looks like some sort of dowitcher, but both short and long-billed are considered rare right now (by ebird). He seems thin, but that’s maybe just because he’s unwell?

The bird was pretty messed up, so I gave him plenty of space…

I’ve never really tried to differentiate between the dowitchers, but this one struck me as different (maybe just acting strangely because he was sick?) In most of the photos (not many), his tail is covered by his wings, but in this one, you can really see the white bands. The bill and face seem right, but he’s in bad shape and it’s hard to see color patterns in the sad mess of feathers. Any thoughts before I try to submit the report to ebird? There doesn’t seem to be a “short-billed/long-billed dowitcher” option 🙂

Thanks!
Amy Silver (Boise)