FWIW, an occasional email has taken hours, or days, to deliver for many
years so I don’t think net neutrality is the cause.

Cliff

On 12/18/18 6:34 AM, Paul Plante run4ity@yahoo.com [ible] wrote:
> Most of the problems with internet postings that have occurred
> recently can be directly linked to the elimination of “internet
> neutrality” that Congress passed.  Without internet neutrality, each
> provider can now prioritize whose messages get sent first and whose
> gets sent last as low priority.  IBLE seems to be on the lower portion
> of the providers lists.   In theory, if you PAY more money for higher
> level service, your message will be moved up the prioritized list and
> sent quicker.  Only problem with that is, “It ain’t necessarily so!”.
>
> Firefighters in California paid highest rate for service during the
> major fires this summer and fall and could not get ANY service from
> Verizon.  Verizon’s answer was simply, if they bought the best, the
> system would have worked.  Not much comfort in that kink of response
> from provider.
>
> Not advocating anything, this  is just explanation of what is going on
> and I see it more every day as internet access is also getting more
> difficult at times.  Toss in the new twist of making snow days
> internet learning days in lieu of make up with additional day of
> school at end of term and the internet highway may be more difficult
> to use.
>
>
> paul plante
>

—
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@octobersetters.com

Most of the problems with internet postings that have occurred recently can be directly linked to the elimination of “internet neutrality” that Congress passed.  Without internet neutrality, each provider can now prioritize whose messages get sent first and whose gets sent last as low priority.  IBLE seems to be on the lower portion of the providers lists.   In theory, if you PAY more money for higher level service, your message will be moved up the prioritized list and sent quicker.  Only problem with that is, “It ain’t necessarily so!”.
Firefighters in California paid highest rate for service during the major fires this summer and fall and could not get ANY service from Verizon.  Verizon’s answer was simply, if they bought the best, the system would have worked.  Not much comfort in that kink of response from provider.
Not advocating anything, this  is just explanation of what is going on and I see it more every day as internet access is also getting more difficult at times.  Toss in the new twist of making snow days internet learning days in lieu of make up with additional day of school at end of term and the internet highway may be more difficult to use. 

paul plante

got one cy of your dark RTHA, cool bird =)
day late for your post to arrive it looks..

From: “‘Tom McCabe’ tmccabe9@cableone.net [ible]”
To: “IBLE”
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 10:33:39 AM
Subject: [IBLE] Is anyone else having trouble posting?

Yesterday I tried to post my sighting of a very black/dark chocolate Red-tailed Hawk near Willow Lane. I first sent the email at 3:37 in the afternoon, and again in the evening. Neither ever showed up. I don’t know whether this one will, but I thought I’d try.

Tom McCabe, Boise

Brian, you must be a science dude! =)

I’m looking at a 15-ml (1-tablespoon) measuring spoon, and it looks huge for the “crop” of a Blue Jay. So I just h ad to peek at the BNA species account (Smith, Tarvin, and Woolfenden, 2013), wherein I see many references to the contents of their stomachs. Oh o f course! But there was this:

“Usually harvests 1-5 acorns or up to 15 beechnuts at a time, depending on size of fruit ( [ https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/blujay/references#REF5081 | Darley-Hill and Johnson 1981 ] , [ https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/blujay/references#REF5095 | Johnson and Adkisson 1985 ] , Bartlow et al. 2011). Transports acorns by storing 2-3 in its distended throat and anterior esophagus ( [ https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/blujay/references#REF5096 | Johnson and Webb 1989 ] ), with one more each in mouth and bill-tip ( [ https://download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/24993181?__hstc=226533890.52f7f9f2e092a4336d636176d9f3e659.1545090179026.1545090179026.1545090179026.1&__hssc=226533890.5.1545090179027&__hsfp=1865447962 | Figure 2 ] ). During 3 days, jays made 1270 and 1959 visits to 2 pin oak trees and removed 3175 and 4897 acorns, respectively (Steele et al. 2010). ”

Egadz! Maybe somewhere there’s a conversion factor for 15 beechnuts or 5 acorns (of average sizes) = how many cc?

Just for fun, eh? And to see how your BLJA ranks!

Larry

From: “lcarrigan_55@yahoo.com [ible]”
To: “IBLE”
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:32:49 PM
Subject: [IBLE] 15 cubic cm

So…if anybody is interested, I’ve calculated the size of a Blue Jay’s crop. Can you tell I have way too much time on my hands since the Snake River is full of slush ice & unstable shelf ice along the banks, shutting down my fly-fishing?!

I watched how many sunflower seeds & whole kernels of corn, the jay takes in at an avg visit to the feeder. And, what I get is an avg of 15 cc (or 15 ml) for its crop size. Just find that fascinating!

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot

Thank you to everyone who reassured me that I wasn’t just sending things
into a black hole. Sounds like everyone got my original post (from yesterday
around 3:30) this morning, and this morning’s not too long after I posted
it. My second one from yesterday apparently did go into the black hole.

Anyway, today’s ride produced a Dipper, my first ever along the Boise River.
(!!!) I know some folks have seen them up near Diversion Dam, but this was
the first time I’ve even seen one in years. I had stopped at a bend in the
river, about midway between Willow Lane and Silver Lake, to tell a friend
about the 2 Red-tailed Hawks I’d just seen at Willow Lane (yes, one was the
extremely dark morph). I saw a bird fly along the shore, low over the water,
and it made a sound that was not in my usual repertoire. I walked my bike
back a few feet and there was the Dipper, bobbing along on a narrow log that
was partially submerged. At about that time Susan caught up, and we all got
great looks at the little guy. And while we were watching, a Cooper’s Hawk
flew across the river and posed in a tree above us. Needless to say, we
didn’t see the Dipper again.

Bald Eagles (2) were again in evidence, one at Quinn’s and one at Veteran’s.
And the dark morph RTHA was between the playing fields and the river at
Willow Lane. Couldn’t find the Northern Pintail, but I did manage 39 species
and 5 were raptors. (I love winter birding!)

Tom McCabe, Boise

Hi Tom, et al. Yes, I tried twice to report 910 Trumpeter Swans in fields around Am. Falls Reservoir yesterday, and both were rejected by IBLE. Glad to see you got through on this one.
Chuck Trost

Always forward, never straight…

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 10:33 AM, ‘Tom McCabe’ tmccabe9@cableone.net [ible] wrote:
>
> Yesterday I tried to post my sighting of a very black/dark chocolate Red-tailed Hawk near Willow Lane. I first sent the email at 3:37 in the afternoon, and again in the evening. Neither ever showed up. I don’t know whether this one will, but I thought I’d try.
>
> Tom McCabe, Boise
>
>

I received it at 11:24 a.m. today. We have a dark morph here, too in east
Emmett. He loves the canal path and orchards.

Liz Medes

Tom,

I did receive your posting about this hawk at 10:25 this morning, so it has made it to the group.

I have had times when Yahoo has been slow to deliver random messages in the past, and it could be this problem which only seems to affect a message here and there. However, if you or anyone else continues to experience this, please let me know.

Jane
co-owner

________________________________
From: ible@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ‘Tom McCabe’ tmccabe9@cableone.net [ible]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 9:33 AM
To: ible@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [IBLE] Is anyone else having trouble posting?

Yesterday I tried to post my sighting of a very black/dark chocolate Red-tailed Hawk near Willow Lane. I first sent the email at 3:37 in the afternoon, and again in the evening. Neither ever showed up. I don’t know whether this one will, but I thought I’d try.

Tom McCabe, Boise

So…if anybody is interested, I’ve calculated the size of a Blue Jay’s crop. Can you tell I have way too much time on my hands since the Snake River is full of slush ice & unstable shelf ice along the banks, shutting down my fly-fishing?!

I watched how many sunflower seeds & whole kernels of corn, the jay takes in at an avg visit to the feeder. And, what I get is an avg of 15 cc (or 15 ml) for its crop size. Just find that fascinating!

Brian Carrigan
Blackfoot

Eamon Harrity and I covered mostly the University of Idaho campus for
today’s Moscow-Pullman CBC. We started the day at the University of Idaho
Sheep Farm, where we found 2-3 continuing BROWN-HEADED COWBIRDS, 3 Brewer’s
Blackbirds, and our only Merlin of the day. Along the Palouse River east
of the Stateline Wetlands, we had a Marsh Wren at the railroad crossing of
the river. We missed a lot of expected birds at the UI Arboretum, but were
lucky to pick up an adult NORTHERN GOSHAWK with prey, relocated multiple
times. We added the other two local Accipiter species between the nearby
Sand Road Wetlands and the UI Golf Course. The main campus was unusually
quiet, but with a lot of effort we tracked down a flock of 8-10 Audubon’s
and one MYRTLE YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER. A second check of the Sheep Farm,
during the afternoon, produced a count of at least 14 Brewer’s Blackbirds
and the Cowbirds, again. Red-tailed Hawks were abundant in most areas,
including a couple of Harlan’s Hawks. Bohemian Waxwings and Common
Redpolls have not made an appearance on the Palouse this fall (I’ve had 2
of the waxwings in the Lewis-Clark Valley).

Good Birding,

Cal Lundblad
Moscow, ID