Re: American Golden Plover continuing at Blacks Creek

There are a number of excellent photos that show barely the tip
of the third primary extending beyond the tertials, tertials
extend more than 2/3 of the way out the tail, and the primaries
have short projection beyond the tail. Legs look long and bill
does too. There is only one previous documented record (July 2003)
plus a historic record in Birds of Idaho.

Cliff

On 5/1/25 07:34PM, Cliff Weisse wrote:

I just looked at Sean’s photos on his eBird checklist and I
agree it looks good for pacific. Awesome bird!

Cliff

On 5/1/25 04:27PM, Carter Strope via
groups.io wrote:

Hey all,

Having seen additional photos shared on
Facebook by Sean Pursley, I think the case for Pacific over
American is strong. The photos show a remarkably short
primary projection, a relatively long bill, and significant
white in the flanks and sides of the undertail with a narrow
strip of white running down the side of the neck. More
photos/angles would be awesome, but based off of Sean’s
photos I think this bird is quite convincing for Pacific.
Carter

On Thu, May 1, 2025, 07:57
Cliff Weisse via groups.io <cliffandlisa=octobersetters.com@groups.io>
wrote:

Has anyone evaluated the relationship of
tail/tertials/primaries on this bird? I can’t tell from
the photos but it would be good to eliminate the
possibility of a much rarer Pacific Golden Plover. If
you’re photographing it try to get some that depict the
primary extension and projection. Either way it’s a very
cool bird.

Cliff

On 5/1/25 11:06AM, henderson.danette via groups.io
wrote:

On north east shore.

Danette Henderson
Boise
-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...
-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

Re: American Golden Plover continuing at Blacks Creek

I just looked at Sean’s photos on his eBird checklist and I agree
it looks good for pacific. Awesome bird!

Cliff

On 5/1/25 04:27PM, Carter Strope via
groups.io wrote:

Hey all,

Having seen additional photos shared on Facebook
by Sean Pursley, I think the case for Pacific over American is
strong. The photos show a remarkably short primary projection,
a relatively long bill, and significant white in the flanks
and sides of the undertail with a narrow strip of white
running down the side of the neck. More photos/angles would be
awesome, but based off of Sean’s photos I think this bird is
quite convincing for Pacific.
Carter

On Thu, May 1, 2025, 07:57
Cliff Weisse via groups.io <cliffandlisa=octobersetters.com@groups.io>
wrote:

Has anyone evaluated the relationship of
tail/tertials/primaries on this bird? I can’t tell from
the photos but it would be good to eliminate the
possibility of a much rarer Pacific Golden Plover. If
you’re photographing it try to get some that depict the
primary extension and projection. Either way it’s a very
cool bird.

Cliff

On 5/1/25 11:06AM, henderson.danette via groups.io wrote:

On north east shore.

Danette Henderson
Boise
-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

Re: American Golden Plover continuing at Blacks Creek

I called it as a Pacific on my checklist.  I had seen Sean’s pictures, they seem to be the best posted.  Therefore I was looking for the white striping down the side.  In my opinion the stripe continued in a broken line all the way down the side to the undertail coverts.  Admittedly I only had a brief look because it left when the Stilts it was with  flushed, but still like Sean’s photos.

Re: American Golden Plover continuing at Blacks Creek

Hey all,

Having seen additional photos shared on Facebook by Sean Pursley, I think the case for Pacific over American is strong. The photos show a remarkably short primary projection, a relatively long bill, and significant white in the flanks and sides of the undertail with a narrow strip of white running down the side of the neck. More photos/angles would be awesome, but based off of Sean’s photos I think this bird is quite convincing for Pacific.
Carter

Re: American Golden Plover continuing at Blacks Creek

Has anyone evaluated the relationship of tail/tertials/primaries
on this bird? I can’t tell from the photos but it would be good to
eliminate the possibility of a much rarer Pacific Golden Plover.
If you’re photographing it try to get some that depict the primary
extension and projection. Either way it’s a very cool bird.

Cliff

On 5/1/25 11:06AM, henderson.danette
via groups.io wrote:


On north east shore.

Danette Henderson
Boise
-- 
Cliff and Lisa Weisse
Island Park, Idaho
cliffandlisa@...

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